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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

In a twist on the standard Remnant formula that nobody asked for, Jonah is joined by noted chicken wing connoisseur Steve Hayes to co-host today’s episode. Their guest is Ben Smith, founder of Semafor, former editor in chief of BuzzFeed News, and author of the new book, Traffic: Genius, Rivalry, and Delusion in the Billion-Dollar Race to Go Viral. The book takes us back to the early days of the internet to explore how the rivalry between Jonah Peretti of BuzzFeed and Nick Denton of Gawker paved the way for today's climate of disinformation, and naturally, it raises a number of questions. How has journalism changed since the dawn of the internet? Why does the young right tend to confuse social media with real life? What can we do to fix the media landscape? And will Jonah ever get over the golden age of blogging? Show Notes: - Ben’s new book, Traffic - Ben: “Confessions of a Media Chronicler” - Semafor - The Great Moon Hoax - Benjy Sarlin: “Take Donald Trump seriously, not literally, on ‘fake news’” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Oh
0:14.3	Ladies and gentlemen
0:16.3	Can I please have your attention
0:27.5	Please do listeners this is John Agovercoast the Remnant Podcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media
0:32.1	I am talking to you from New York City
0:36.4	My window actually overlooks like the roof of Grand Central Station, which is interesting how tall I will live in a grip here
0:43.9	I didn't realize how tall Grand Central Station was
0:47.2	But that's neither here nor there
0:50.7	Today we're doing something a little special we have a very special guest
0:54.6	But we also have a very special guest host in so far as
1:01.0	Both the Remnant the flagship podcast of the dispatch and the dispatch podcast both wanted this guest and
1:08.2	We both booked them, but we did not we realized it in time and did not want to repeat of the John Ward Fiasco
1:14.5	So what we decided to do was actually do a co-hosted thing, you know, show up in both feeds and I believe and I got
1:24.1	this guy
1:26.4	From deep in the editorial bals of the dispatch
1:30.1	It goes by the name Steve Hayes. So he's joining us and our guest is none other than Ben Smith
1:36.4	Who is the founder and editor-in-chief of semaphore he was also the editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed news from 2011 to 2020 and
1:45.0	Immediacolomist at the New York Times from 2020 to 2022 his most recent book is
1:51.8	traffic
1:53.0	Genius rivalry and delusion in the billion dollar race to go viral
1:58.6	Then Smith welcome to the Remnant
2:01.6	Thank you so much for having me on and thanks for that glimpse that internal dispatch politics brutal
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