Clevinger out for 2021, Drew Smyly to Atlanta and early rankings feedback
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
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4.7 • 873 Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2020
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Eno and DVR discuss Mike Clevinger's absence for the 2021 season due to Tommy John surgery, Drew Smyly's quick move to Atlanta, injury risk for pitchers, overrating and underrating the same player simultaneously, and more.
Rundown
2:15 Mike Clevinger Undergoing Tommy John Surgery
6:06 Drew Smyly to Atlanta for 2021
8:41 Reassessing Injury Risk for Pitchers in the Wake of Clevinger News?
13:35 Or, Pushing Zac Gallen Up?
17:49 Where to Take Young Pitchers
23:44 Is He Underrated or Overrated?
30:48 Joey Bart’s Surprisingly Quiet Rookie Campaign
38:21 How Will Teams Handle Players Who Skipped Triple-A in 2020?
50:02 Targeting Austin Riley Late
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Rates and barrels. It's Monday, November 16th. |
| 0:18.9 | Derek Van Riper here with Enoseres on this episode. |
| 0:23.6 | The 2021 rankings are up on the athletic. |
| 0:27.2 | They're the first draft, of course. |
| 0:28.8 | Lots of feedback coming in. |
| 0:30.1 | It's been great to see that so far. |
| 0:32.2 | We get to some interesting things that are popping up around those rankings. |
| 0:35.8 | And we've got news. |
| 0:36.8 | We have Drew Smiley finding a new home. |
| 0:39.3 | We'll talk about our expectations for him in Atlanta. We found out just before we started recording that Mike Clevenger will undergo Tommy John surgery. He will miss all of the 2021 season. He signed a two-year deal with the Padres to cover him for the 2022 season, |
| 0:57.1 | which seems kind of like a made-up season right now, by the way. |
| 1:01.0 | We'll talk about when you could gamble on young pitching, |
| 1:03.4 | and we will talk about a player who I have both overrated and underrated, |
| 1:07.3 | which is pretty amazing that in the first few hours, at the same time, |
| 1:11.3 | we should call his agent and see what he thinks of your ranking. |
| 1:16.5 | Let's leave the agents out of this. |
| 1:20.4 | I mean, it's actually pretty fun. |
| 1:24.0 | So for those who have not seen the tweet, our friend and boss, Nanda Dufino, used cameo |
| 1:29.6 | to have Rachel Lubba talk about the pitcher rankings I put out. Trevor Bauer, near the back |
| 1:36.6 | of the top 10, eight among starting pitchers. Rachel is Trevor's agent. She didn't think that |
| 1:41.9 | was a very good ranking, and she doesn't think I'm a very good analyst or fantasy player. She even said she's glad that I'm not a baseball writer, and that I don't |
| 1:49.3 | have votes as in awards of votes as well, which is actually, that's the best chirp anyone has ever |
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