From about 15 years on up a great deal of my thoughts were basically unshareable.

We are all evil in some form or another.

Oh yeah, yes, I am not percent, but I am you.

My mother was a sick, angry, hungry, and very sad woman. I hated her but I wanted to love my mother.

This is serial killing, a podcast.

Hello again, Murder Fam and welcome back to Serial Killing a Podcast. My name is

A Lissic Carroll, and I am the creator and host of at serial underscore killing on Instagram where we go through the life

stories of serial killers to see if we might catch a glimpse of why they displayed their famous vile and disturbing behaviors.

I want to give a special thanks to some of my patrons, Kaizen, two Emmas, Emily, Gabrielle, Galin, Cassandra, David,

John, and my girl Judy. Thank you so much.

Now this podcast is going to be a little bit different because the serial killer is still unknown.

This podcast is going to be about the

Cleveland torso killer, sometimes called the Cleveland torso murderer, but he

was also known as the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run.

And thank you to a fellow Murder Fam member, Mike, for telling me that it's perfectly okay to break this into two parts because I really want to give this case at least a modicum of the time that it deserves.

So to get into the story I must first set the scene. The early 1930s

were a very difficult time for the United States. 1929 marked the beginning of the Great Depression, which was then made worse by the 1930s Dust Bowl.

The Great Depression itself originated within the United States, but it severely affected the whole world.

When unemployment was nearly out of control, we were making less products and materials for export to other countries.

This in turn slowed their own economies. It was quite literally the greatest and longest economic

recession in modern world history. Now people had to survive any way that they possibly could.

One of the mottos of that time was, quote,

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