I have been a Presbyterian minister for 25 years.

As a Presbyterian pastor, Zach Wilson doesn't have to wear all that priest stuff.

Protestant churches are much less uniform, obviously, than Roman Catholic churches.

Doesn't have to wear the cassock or the chasible or the stole.

Nothing's required.

I would wear a collared shirt with a tie most of the time, not always a tie, but for the most

part, because I like ties.

And then how often would you wear the collar?

Never.

Really?

No.

I hate to say this, but like, I didn't want to be seen as that.

Because people have their feelings about what religion is.

People project things on you.

I never wore color till this.

And by this, Pastor Zach means when immigration and customs enforcement took over his city.

I'm the co-executive presbyter of the Presbyter of the Twin Cities area here in Minnesota.

So, you know, we had one church who had a Sudanese refugee family and the 22-year-old son was abducted and speared it off to Texas within hours and he was legal.

The Presbytery kicked in 10 grand and we were able to get him back, right?

Amazing.

But most people cannot marshal those sorts of resources. And there's a lot of making sure people have

money to do deliveries to people's homes because people are kind of shut in.

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