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Hello and welcome to your Dead To Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

My name is Greg Jenner, I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster.

And today we are taking a pleasure cruise down the Nile and plunging into the life and afterlife

of one of history's most famous women. That's right, it's Cleopatra Kamenachia.

In History Corner, she's assistant professor of classics and the Anastas Classics Fellow

at Union College University of Cambridge. She specialises in the politics of Imperial Rome

and classical reception studies and you may remember her from our episode on the rise of Julius

Caesar. Sorry, Julius Kaiser. It's Dr. Shushma Malik. Welcome back Shushma.

Hi Greg, it's lovely to be here thanks for having me back again.

And in Comedy Corner, she's an award-winning comedian, actor, writer and presenter.

You might have seen her act in the Duchess on Netflix or Almos Not Normal on the BBC or Watch

to be funny, unlock the week, Moguligan's Black British and funny, drunk history or Richard

Osmond's House of Games. She's got loads going on, it's the terrific Tanya Moore. Welcome Tanya.

You may be sound so great, thanks Greg. You're great. Thank you.

I was like wait, is it me? Is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn. Welcome to the show Tanya.

I'm excited. First time on the podcast, I've seen you on drunk history.

Yes. You were doing Mary C. Cole. Yes. I'm assuming some historical knowledge is in that brain,

but at the same time, you drank so much in that episode, I'm not sure if it's still there.

Honestly, it was a lot. So history, you've done in a fairly intense way, but what about

Cleopatra? Do you know, I mean, she's really famous as a name, but do you know any of her story?

I know that she's got a great name, I know that she's a she. You say Cleopatra and I think

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