Clearing Space for Spirit: A Conversation with Tara Brach & Patty Morrissey
Tara Brach
Tara Brach
4.8 • 10.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
In this wide-ranging and heartfelt conversation, KonMari Club teacher Patty Morrissey sits down with Tara Brach to explore what spirituality truly means. Together, they reflect on the qualities of spiritually awake people, the foundational habits that sustain a vibrant inner life, and the surprising role of humor on the path. They also delve into how tidiness—a central practice in the KonMari Method—can either express control or become a liberating act of presence and care. With two short guided meditations woven in, this interview offers practical nourishment for living in a way that aligns with your deepest heart.
About KonMari Club
The KonMari Club is a yearlong community experience designed to help members bring Marie Kondo's philosophy to life — not just in their homes, but in every aspect of their lives. Through small group coaching, guided reflection, live events, and monthly themes like Self, Body, Time, Money, and Spirituality, members cultivate clarity, calm, and connection as they align daily life with what brings them joy and meaning. To learn more about the KonMari Club, visit konmari.com/konmariclub or follow @konmari.co on Instagram.
About Patty Morrissey
Patty Morrissey, MSW, is the Director of the KonMari Club and a Master Certified KonMari Consultant. She created the Club's transformational curriculum — The Clear & Cultivate Method® — which combines practical tidying wisdom with evidence-based practices in behavior change and well-being. With over 20 years of experience designing and leading transformational programs, Patty helps people live with greater intention, vitality, and belonging. To keep in touch with Patty Morrissey follow @pattymorrissey on Instagram or visit pattymorrissey.com
Our introduction music is from "Opening" by Adrienne Torf, © 2025 ABT Music
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, friends, to the Tara Brock podcast. I'm so glad you're here. |
| 0:11.3 | Each week, I share teachings and guided meditations to help us awaken our hearts and bring healing |
| 0:17.8 | to our world. |
| 0:24.4 | You can learn more or support this offering by visiting tarabrock.com, |
| 0:27.1 | where you can also join our email list. |
| 0:32.5 | Now, let's explore together |
| 0:34.7 | the many ways we can live |
| 0:36.7 | from the love and presence that's our deepest essence. |
| 0:45.3 | Namaste. |
| 0:48.2 | Namaste, welcome, my friends. |
| 1:13.6 | Some of you have heard of Marie Kondo. |
| 1:17.6 | She became known for teaching about decluttering and choosing really what sparks joy. |
| 1:24.6 | So she has created a community along with Patty Morrissey and it's dedicated to |
| 1:30.4 | living with intention and cultivating joy. And Patty asked me for an interview and I agreed. |
| 1:37.6 | And so what follows is a wonderful conversation we had about the meaning of spirituality, about what makes for a spiritually |
| 1:46.9 | awake person, basic habits that sustain a vibrant life, the role of humor on the path, |
| 1:56.0 | how tidiness, which is basic to Conmarie method, can either control us, trying to be too tidy, |
| 2:03.6 | or actually become a liberating act of presence and care. |
| 2:08.6 | One question that was pitched to me that I somehow didn't answer was my personal experience |
| 2:15.6 | around tidiness. So I feel compelled to confess, partly |
| 2:21.4 | because Jonathan, my husband, threatened to out me, that beyond the Zoom view that you see, |
| 2:28.0 | my office is not yet tidy. I honor tidiness and I'm on a very steep learning curve. So I wanted to share that |
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