I'm Alan Alder and this is Clear and Vivid. Conversations about connecting and communicating.

Welcome to a preview of season 18. We have a really great slate of shows coming up in

season 18. I'm here with Graham Shaddle produces a show each week. It's hard to believe

we've done over 200 shows so far, isn't it? It's certainly isn't. It's not just the quantity.

It's the quality. That's right. I mean we've had guests ranging from no belists to

opera singers to comedians and actors and authors and journalists. There are two things that

distinguish our guests. One is they're all great communicators and the other is that

that people that you really wanted to sit down and have a conversation with. And first up on

this preview is a conversation I had with two actors who I greatly admire and who I also treasure

as friends. Alfred Molina and Victor Garber. You probably know Victor Garber from his starring

roles on television and Broadway and films and you have a special relationship with Alfred Molina

don't you Graham? Well we're both Brits as you'll soon find out when you hear him in a moment.

I was chatting with him before we recorded your conversation with them both the other day

and I told him that he was the only person ever scared by then seven year old son out of a movie theater.

With his role his first role as Dr. Octopus he's played doc Ock twice now in the Spider-Man

movies but that first one really so scared Adam that we actually had to leave the movie theater.

Fred Molina and Victor Garber and I first met in a play 24 years ago on Broadway

and you know I'm like most acting jobs where you have a close relationship for a few weeks and then

you drift apart. Something interesting happened that continued to draw us together after the play

closed partly I guess is that it was a beautifully written hilarious play about friendship which sort

of seeped into our own friendship but I think it also had something to do with how we got ready for

the play before every performance and that didn't have anything to do with acting. Here's Fred

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