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This is Winds and Losses with Clay Travis. Clay talks with the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business.

Now, here's Clay Travis.

Welcome in. Winds and Losses podcast. I am Clay Travis. Appreciate you guys listening to us and joining the series of Winds and Losses.

If this is your first and we're about to talk with Kirk Herb Street, I think you guys will really enjoy going back

and checking out a lot of our other guests, whether it's Shannon Terry, who founded 24-7 Sports and Rivals, Paul Feinbaum, Mike Leach, Dan

Wetzel-Yahu, Sports National columnist. We have been all over the place, Jason Wittlock talking to a lot of different people in the world of sports media, politics and business.

And today we bring in Kirk Herb Street, a fellow Nash villain at least for the past several years.

But he has been, I would say the face of college football for basically the last 20 years.

And Kirk, I appreciate you coming on with us. And I want to start back when you are growing up in Ohio.

And I know your dad is a college football coach. If I could have gone back in time when you're 18 years old and about to go off to Ohio State and say,

one day you will be the face of college football. Would you have thought that meant that you would win two or three high's

metrophysies or would you have thought that it might be media related?

Man, first of all, it's great to be with you always and join our team as a chance to talk to you.

If you would have said that, for me, you got to go back now. That would have been in the mid-delay of the late 80s.

You know, there was no such thing as the internet. There was no such thing as social media.

So you have to kind of go way back and appreciate where we were in that time.

So if you would have said that to me, I would have definitely thought.

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