Well, let's spend some time with Clay Trave. Well, I tell you, you remember the story? Yes, this is a guy that ordered trout once at Cracker Barrow. I'm going to pull over on the side of the road on I-20 and get some rainbow trout from Cracker Bear. Outkick founder Clay Travis, order of Rainbow Trout at Crackerbell. Did you think they pulled it out of the stream behind? well in my defense it may be worse actually the

defense it was salmon from denny's no you know you've done trout from crackerbill you've told

a story i think you've done i'm sure i've done i'm sure i've done trout from cracker barrel too but

that doesn't feel as bad to me as salmon from Denny's.

Yeah, what were you thinking there? Why did you go salmon at Denny's?

I, so I think partly it was location. Now, what my wife would make fun of me because, like, I ordered the beef tips at IHOP as well, which is probably not a great decision.

But I think we were in the Pacific Northwest.

My recollection on this is driving from Seattle to Vancouver.

And I was thinking, you know, man, salmon sounds good.

And, you know, I probably should have maybe ordered it from somewhere other than Denny's. But, yeah, that was my choice. So there's not many people who've probably done trout at Cracker Barrel and Salmon at Denny's, but I'm in that illustrious group. Elite company there. Hey, what is your expectation? We were talking about Josh Heipple in the quarterback position and how they're

blurring out quarterbacks right now at camp, not trying to tell you who's doing what.

What would you consider a good year this year for Tennessee?

Nine and three. You know, I think the challenge on nine and three is most people would say if you go nine and three,

that would mean you lose to Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, which I would say are probably the three

best teams on the schedule. But I think if you looked at Heipel at that point, you would say, I believe

I'm correct, 11 and 2, 8 and 4, 10 and 3, 9 and 3 with a good chance to win a bowl game, maybe an outside

chance to sneak in the playoff depending on how everything else goes and, you know, all the other major

conferences. But I think that would be a, you know, you're kind of

establishing that the floor of the program is around, you know, nine or ten wins, which is a big

difference. And, you know, he's putting together, I think, some really good talent going forward.

And I think you factor in, look, Tennessee's 18 in the coaches poll,

if I'm not mistaken, I think probably if Nico had come back, they're 10, 9, something like that,

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