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🗓️ 4 October 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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The illustrious author, poet, and playwright, Claudia Rankine, joins us with the release of her latest book, Just Us: An American Conversation. We discuss the conversations (3:12) and relationships (24:12) that comprise Just Us, the problem with color-blindness, a personal shift in perspective following her cancer diagnosis (16:53), how history remains present for black people (27:29), and why we must repeatedly unpack what privilege looks and sounds like in this country (40:26). To close, Claudia reads a timely and moving excerpt from Just Us (52:52).
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0:00.0 | Pushkin. This is Tishkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam Fricoso. Welcome to the show. Hey yo, yo, yo! |
0:23.0 | Hey! |
0:24.0 | Hey! Hey! Hey everyone. Thank you for being here. This past week has been, |
0:40.0 | it's been a roller coaster for a ride I'm dying to get off of. Holy shit. As of this |
0:50.2 | taping, Donald J. Trump is at Walter Reed Military Hospital. His chief of |
0:56.8 | staff, Mark Meadows, said that the president's vitals over the last 24 hours were |
1:02.1 | very concerning. and the next 48 hours will be critical |
1:06.7 | in terms of his care. We're still not on a clear path to a full recovery. Now, before we get to Claudia Rankin today, there's been a lot of conversation |
1:18.6 | around civility, about how people on the left are celebrating a family's illness. |
1:25.0 | But I just want to clear something up because no one is celebrating illness. |
1:31.0 | At least not intentionally. What they are celebrating is the |
1:35.9 | potential end of an era, a conclusion on this administration, an administration that |
1:41.7 | has cost thousands of lives in its handling of the |
1:45.4 | coronavirus, an administration that has separated children from their families |
1:50.0 | at the border, has locked up nonviolent tax-paying Mexicans, has called our troops, suckers and |
1:56.8 | losers, has spewed misogyny, assaulted women mocked the disabled community, threatened |
2:02.3 | the free press, circumvented and bent the law at his |
2:06.2 | own will. Lied, lied, and Lied, paid $750 in federal income tax, they are celebrating the end of all this. |
2:17.0 | The potential end of all this. |
2:20.0 | No one that has made sense so far. |
2:32.9 | So I wish President Trump a recovery. |
2:36.4 | I wish his family well, and I look forward to saying goodbye to them, come November. |
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