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The Generation Why Podcast

Claude Dallas - 463

The Generation Why Podcast

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True Crime, Case, Trial, Conspiracies, 855520, Government, Unsolved, Society & Culture, Missing Person, Controversy, Exhibit C, Serial Killer, Crime, Murder, Documentary, Conspiracy

4.618.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

January 5th, 1981. Owyhee County, Idaho. To some, Claude Dallas is an outlaw hero who was wrongfully imprisoned for defending his freedoms. To others, he’s a murderer who fatally shot two game wardens after they caught him breaking Idaho trapping laws. Claude had no regard for law and order, and hated law enforcement so much he was willing to kill to avoid arrest. Claude’s early life and years of illegal trapping without being caught contributed to his feelings of invincibility, until his final arrest in 1987.

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0:30.0

How are you doing tonight, Aaron? I'm doing all right, Justin. How are you? I'm okay. I've

0:48.8

been excited to talk about the controversy at the Oscars. I, myself, absolutely cannot believe

0:57.2

that Will Smith won an Oscar over Denzel Washington and Benedict Cumberbatch. I don't know. Everyone,

1:04.7

what are your opinions? I thought that Denzel did a better job. I didn't think that Will

1:09.5

Smith deserved the Oscar this year. Wait, wait. So my question is, which movie was Denzel

1:14.6

in? The tragedy of Macbeth and Benedict Cumberbatch was in the power of the dog. Well, I've

1:22.0

not seen either. I didn't even know that Denzel was in a movie. That's news to me. Yeah. So all

1:28.9

listeners, you can weigh in on that huge controversy at the Oscars about who should have won best

1:35.5

actor. You're listening ad-free on Wondry Plus. So Aaron, tonight's case is one of those

1:46.0

folktale sort of stories where the man is fighting against the government and achieves this legendary

1:57.3

status. But sometimes the legend or the folklore doesn't exactly match up with reality. So with that,

2:10.4

what are we talking about tonight? Tonight, we're talking about the murder of two game

2:17.1

wardens by a man who refused to give up his old ways. So this is in December 1981. A man named

2:28.0

Eddie Carlin was out trapping on his land. And when you're out in this area, which is the

2:36.0

bull basin in a Waihi County, Idaho, it's thick wilderness. There's not a lot of people around.

2:43.2

So when you do come across somebody out in the wilderness, it's a little jarring and it's a little

2:49.5

scary, especially when they're armed with guns and you're out there just trying to trap on your

2:56.8

own land. So when Eddie's out there, he comes across people that have left traps there. He comes

3:05.0

across poachers and normally there's no problem. But on this day, he'd come across a man that kind

3:14.4

of gave him an uneasy feeling. He came across a man named Claude and this man had a 357 magnum on him

3:24.8

and was what people consider a trash trapper, meaning he didn't use modern day methods and the traps

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