Claude Code Head Boris Cherny: Insane Growth, Tokenmaxxing, AI Agents' Next Frontier

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.7 • 596 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Boris Cherney is the head of Claude Code at Anthropic. Cherney joins Big Technology to discuss Claude Code’s explosive growth and whether the rise of AI agents is sustainable. Tune in to hear how Claude Code is changing software development, why Anthropic believes agents will spread far beyond coding, and what happens when people start running hundreds or thousands of AI agents in parallel. We also cover token maxing, rate limits, Codex competition, SaaS disruption, self-improving AI, and whether today’s models really understand the consequences of their actions. Hit play for a sharp look at the agent boom from one of the people building it. Join the Big Technology AI Summit: https://summit.bigtechnology.com --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Let's talk with ClaudeCodehead Boris Churny about the product's explosive growth, what's next on the roadmap, and whether all this is sustainable.
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1:21.8	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed and nuanced conversation of the tech world
1:26.9	and beyond. We have a great show for you today. Claudecote head Boris Churny is here with us in studio. We're going to talk all about the product, the way it's taken off, what's next on the roadmap, and of course, whether it's sustainable. We're going to go into things like token maxing, token inefficiency, and then of course the future of knowledge work.
1:44.5	So no lack of topics to cover.
1:47.0	Boris, it's so great to see you.
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