Classic: Was the cosmos made for us? Sabine Hossenfelder vs Luke Barnes

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🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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- The fine-tuning of the Universe: Big Conversation - Episode 4 | Season 3. Many physicists have pointed out the extraordinary ‘fine tuning’ of the physical laws of the universe that have allowed life to develop within the cosmos. Luke Barnes believes it gives evidence for a designer behind the cosmos, whereas Sabine Hossenfelder disagrees, questioning whether we can even speak of ‘fine tuning’ as a phenomenon. 👉 Support thought-provoking conversations and help keep the show going at www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate💡 🎧 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast a www.premier.plus/unbelievable 🎙️ 🔗 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 📢 Social Links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable

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0:00.0	My dad died when I was nine years old and it broke something in me.
0:05.0	I spent lots of times homeless, causing even bigger rifts in the family.
0:10.0	I was out of control.
0:12.0	Green Pastures is a Christian charity providing homes and support for people facing homelessness across the UK.
0:20.0	As soon as I walked in that place,
0:21.6	I knew there was something different about it.
0:23.6	Through Green Pastures,
0:25.6	Andy found a home,
0:26.6	freedom from addiction,
0:28.6	and a new beginning in faith.
0:30.6	It's the best thing I've ever done.
0:31.6	It released me from that 23 years of addiction.
0:35.6	And now I'm senior support worker here at Green Pastures Derby.
0:39.8	Find out more at greenpastures.com.uk.
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0:53.8	Open each door and step into the unfolding story of Jesus,
0:58.1	with daily challenges rooted in kindness and a verse that brings you closer to Bethlehem.
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1:15.7	uk hello and welcome to today's edition of the show today broadcasting our fourth episode of the big
1:27.0	conversation season three today we're talking about the fine tuning of the show, today broadcasting our fourth episode of the Big Conversation, Season 3.
1:28.9	Today we're talking about the fine-tuning of the universe and was the cosmos created for us.
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