Hey no, no confession time man. You know we're getting on in years and I'm just wondering

have you or Max ever considered Botox? I don't think you need it.

I don't think that. Thank you. Thank you for that caveat. I'm going to say it's not for me. I know shade or grudge against anyone that feels like that's something that'll improve their self-image or

self-esteem, but it's just never been something that I've found to be of interest to me personally.

I was startled to read. I right they look they often look startled the folks get do what you will you know

as long as it's something positive and it makes you happy but if somebody came to me and they said Ben you need Botox it would kind of send me on a spiral just to be honest

Absolutely, and you know I mean in this our very public facing day and age where folks are judged for their

looks on the regular people who are public figures I get the pressure to look your best

or whatever but it turns out the origins of this kind of the very unusual and and dare we say ridiculous. Yeah this may give you a pause but we

think it's a very fascinating and ridiculous origin story and obviously like you're saying we're not we're not

taking pot shots for anybody who is doing Botox or similar procedures but I think it is

important in an age of social media and everybody being to some degree of public figure.

It's important to realize that there can be dangers to that because people have been getting Botox at younger and younger ages, which, you know, not to sound like an old fogy, but I would be, you know, where I apparent, I would be a little concerned if I had like a

college or high school aged kid who came to me and said dad

for Christmas or whatever I want or my birthday or something.

I want Botox. I will say I have a friend who she gets Botox

injections very not very uncommonly and what she always says is like if you just do it a little bit and so they tell you like a little bit it's like you know helps out but like when you see these you know the celebrities with the terror faces probably.

Yeah, that's because they've just going way too hard.

And like, you know, she was talking to me about it, I'm like, okay, that's a different way of thinking about it,

from what, how I've always thought of it.

Something with moderation, right?

Well, I mean, it's no accident that the talks part of Botox is in there because the Botulinum

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