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Classic Reply: Spiritual deconstruction among Millennials with Michael Gungor and Evan Wickham (Replay)

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 5 March 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Michael Gungor and his wife Lisa were pioneers in the Christian music scene, building a loyal fan base through Gungor's music and podcasts such as The Liturgists. However, Michael's recent turn towards an increasingly progressive, mystical and deconstructed interpretation of faith has left many Christians confused. In this episode Michael is joined by Christian songwriter and teacher, Evan Wickham as they break down many of the questions millennials and Gen Z'ers are facing today and what impact and interpretation, if any, this has on the church, modern theology and Christian music today. This episode originally aired on: Oct 28, 2022 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/courses • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0

It's the story that rocked the UK Church, allegations of Parabuse, leveled at

0:07.1

sole survivor and its leader, Mike Palavacci. Learn what happened by

0:11.4

hearing from those at the heart of it all, and find out how we, the church, can learn important lessons.

0:17.0

Soul Survivors, a new podcast from Premier Christianity magazine. Download it today at Premier. Plus or find it on

0:24.8

Apple, Spotify or your chosen podcast platform. Thank you. Hello and this week we're delving back into the

0:54.2

archives to bring you a discussion on the question.

0:57.0

millennials, music and deconstruction, Michael Gunga and Evan Wickham join me.

1:01.0

Let's jump in on today's discussion. Michael Gunga is a well-known

1:07.2

musician and songwriter who, along with his wife Lisa, were pioneers really in

1:11.2

the Christian music scene. However as his theology

1:14.2

changed into a more progressive direction so did his music and for many years the

1:18.4

podcast that he co-host the litigious has seen listeners go with him on a journey of questioning and

1:24.0

deconstructing the Christianity he started with into something very different today.

1:28.1

Well Evan Wickham is pastor at Park Hill Church in San Diego He's also a musician and worship leader by

1:34.8

background and has collaborated with Michael in the past and they've remained

1:39.2

friends though they haven't chatted for a little while so this will be a fun

1:42.0

get-together to talk

1:43.3

about their different journeys up to now like Michael, Evan and many of those he

1:47.4

pastors they're millennials with questions about the Bible, faith and God but

1:52.3

ultimately Evan questions about the Bible, faith and God. But ultimately Evans come to different conclusions to Michael.

1:57.0

Remaining in the stream, you could say, of historic Orthodox Christianity,

2:00.1

despite the trend towards deconstruction among many of his peers.

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