Classic Replay: The historical Jesus – Philip Pullman, Anthony McRoy and Martin Saunders

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🗓️ 30 March 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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In prominent atheist author Philip Pullman’s ‘The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ’, he re-imagines the story of Jesus as the story of two twins - one called Jesus, the other Christ. It is the twin Christ who writes the history of Jesus, turning him into the God-man of the Gospels. Philip Pullman joins Justin Brierley to discuss whether we should believe the biblical stories of Jesus as historical fact or whether myth and invention are inevitable in the 2,000 year old Gospel accounts. Christian journalist Martin Saunders engages Pullman on his view of the Church and his scepticism of the miraculous, while Bible Scholar Anthony McRoy challenges Pullman's view that the Gospels are the product of the mythologising and interpretation of its historical core. He particularly takes issue with Pullman's recasting of the resurrection as a fabricated trick to create the foundation of the future church. For ‘The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ’ see http://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Jesus-Scoundrel-Christ-Myths/dp/1847678254 For Unbelievable? The Conference 2021 http://www.unbelievable.live USA listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resources and to support us: http://www.unbelievable.show Subscribe to our newsletter and receive the free Unbelievable? e-book ‘In Conversation With…’ https://www.premier.org.uk/Unbelievablenewsletter Support the show: https://resources.premier.org.uk/supportunbelievable For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Facebook https://www.facebook.com/UnbelievableJB Twitter https://twitter.com/unbelievablejb Insta https://www.instagram.com/justin.brierley

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0:00.0	You're listening to Unbelievable, with Justin Braille.
0:16.7	I'm Ruth Jackson, part of the unbelievable team and you are listening to a classic replay
0:21.0	programme from the archives.
0:23.0	The episode you are about to hear was first broadcast on Premier Christian Radio on the
0:27.9	8th of May 2010.
0:30.1	From an atheist author, Philip Pullman, discusses the historical Jesus with Christian journalist
0:35.8	Martin Saunders and Bible scholar Anthony McRoy.
0:39.6	You can get in touch with the show and listen to more episodes at premierChristianRadio.com
0:44.8	slash unbelievable.
0:49.3	Well welcome along to the programme and a real treat for you today.
0:53.0	I've long wanted to have the main guest we have on the show today with me, Philip Pullman.
0:57.8	He joins us by phone for discussion today and particularly in regard to his latest book,
1:02.9	The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ, available through all good stores, bookshops
1:08.9	and you can get it online of course.
1:10.3	I'll put a link up with the podcast of this programme for anyone who wants to get hold
1:14.4	of the book that way.
1:19.1	Well Philip Pullman has of course made a name for himself not only as an author, particularly
1:23.4	of children's literature but also as an atheist and this is the show that very often brings
1:28.2	Christians and atheists together to debate different points of view.
1:31.8	And perhaps this is in some ways one of your most I suppose religious books, Philip,
1:37.4	the title The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ gives some indication of what the subject
1:43.5	matter is.
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