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Hello, welcome back to another classic replay edition of Unbelievable with me Justin Browley

introducing another show from our vast archive.

Now we featured a lot of Bart Erman back in 2011. This show from August 2011 was I think

his third outing on Unbelievable that year.

He returned for another conversation with the resurrection scholar Mike Lekona.

Talking about their different experiences why Bart de-converted and Mike Lekona held

on to his faith after a period of doubt. So hope you enjoy their conversation.

Thanks for tuning in. Don't forget many more shows available from the unbelievable podcast

archive at our show page premierchristianradio.com slash unbelievable.

Great pleasure to welcome back into the studio Bart Erman who is coming a bit of a regular

this year. He was on just before Easter talking about the resurrection of Jesus and he was

talking actually with my other guest on today's program Mike Lekona and let me just officially

give you their titles though. Bart is James A. Gray, distinguished professor of religious

studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and author of many books perhaps

most famously his book Miss Quoting Jesus but we had him on recently talking about his

most recent work forged.

Bart has in many ways been a real figure who's put the cat among the pigeons as it were

in the Evangelical Christian world by kind of making public some of the what we're up

until now is this scholarly disputes over the textual variations in scripture and whether

we can trust the reliability of the transmission of the New Testament documents over time and

that sort of thing. We've done some great programs with Bart in conversation with other

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