friends and neighbors fellow conspiracy realist back in 2020.

Toward the very end of the year, guys,

as we were gearing up for,

as we were gearing up for what they call Thanksgiving in the United States,

we had a really deep conversation about natural disasters and revolution.

Yeah, when empires deal with something like a major flood and it destroys infrastructure,

right?

But then we've got historians, anthropologists, all these folks coming through trying to

understand what happened to an ancient civilization.

And often it's thought that it was a rival civilization, somebody that tried to just take over and raise a city, let's say.

But what if it was just the weather slash the climate slash some disaster?

I was just listening to a really interesting interview with a famous production designer named

Jack Fisk who worked on the recent Marty Supreme and a lot of Terrence Malick movies.

And he's just a really fascinating dude and a great historian because a big part of what he does

as a production designer is look into historical references and photos

and just understanding how to create the world of a very specific times and history.

And he pointed out that at the end of the day, what makes the most perfect storm, no pun intended,

circumstances for a revolution is when people can no longer feed their children, is when people can no longer

have the things they need to survive, not ideology. That's almost like a luxury. We are talking about

situations, circumstances that lead people to revolt because they are not able to live.

And as we find in tonight's classic episode,

multiple investigations with the benefit of retrospect

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