Oh, conspiracy realist friends, neighbors.

We are super excited for this one.

This classic episode is one of the things that we talked about at length

with each other hanging out in our little, do we call it the fish bowl yeah

before we even did this show yeah this is just the name it's one of those things

you stumble upon maybe on a message board as you start to get curious about unsolved

mysteries and things like that, you'll see this written for the first time.

All of us did.

We all saw at one time we were like, MK Ultra. What is that?

Mortal combat?

Is that like moral combat Ultra Edition?

I've never heard of?

But really, like your brain says that sounds crazy already and then you start to learn what it is like we're about to do in this episode and it makes you question pretty much everything else.

Mm-hmm. Please tune in and realize behind the curtain.

I think this kind of stuff may have been one of the foundational cornerstones of our friendship. Yeah, this and I think Edward Burgh. foundational Gunning, the host of Betrayal. I'm excited to announce that the Betrayal

podcast is expanding. We are going to be releasing episodes weekly every

Thursday. Each week you'll hear brand new stories, firsthand accounts of shocking deception, broken trust,

and the trail of destruction left behind.

Listen to betrayal weekly on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm John Walzak, host of the new podcast, missing in Arizona.

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