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🗓️ 1 April 2025
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0:19.8 | Good afternoon. Welcome along to Unbelievable. I'm Justin Briley. This is the show that brings Christians and non-Christians together here on Premier. And a really interesting discussion for you today on conversion and deconversion. Let me introduce you to today's guests. Guillaume Bignon is a French theologian, but he was an atheist until |
0:38.9 | a few years ago. A series of personal events led him on an intellectual journey to investigate |
0:44.0 | Christianity, and he did become a Christian. We'll be hearing his story today, and he'll be |
0:49.1 | interacting with Wade Padgett, who has a story himself of going in the opposite direction, |
0:55.1 | from Christian belief to atheism. Well, today they're going to be discussing their respective stories and what part |
1:00.8 | experience and evidence play in making someone decide for or against faith. Should be another |
1:07.6 | cracking edition of the program today. So a very warm welcome to you both gentlemen. |
1:12.3 | Great to have you here. We'll come to you in a moment's time to meet you properly. |
1:16.5 | Guillaume, Bignon. Am I pronouncing this correctly, Guillaume? Yeah, that's actually pretty |
1:20.8 | impressive. There you go. Those GCSE French lessons didn't go to waste, you see. |
1:27.7 | You're joining us via Skype today from New York, where you are currently resident. |
1:33.3 | But of course, your story starts in France, doesn't it, Guillaume? |
1:37.2 | That's very true. |
1:38.2 | I've been only here for the last few years, and I'm very much French. |
1:41.8 | As my accent will very easily betray, so I was born in France. |
1:45.9 | Well, you've got very good English, I must say, Guillaume, but tell us what happened to you, |
1:51.1 | because until several years ago, you were actually an atheist, weren't you? Do you want to tell us |
1:56.9 | what happened? Yes, so the conversion story has a lot of different points and it's very |
2:02.4 | hard to make it justice in a small condensed account, but I'll try very hard to make it brief and |
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