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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

Well, you know, I realized this was going to happen, neighbors. As soon as we had Joshua

Shapiro talking about the crystal skulls, I felt he was somewhat gullible about the way he

acquires evidence. Well, after that, I expected that we would get appropriate responses in our

forums. And Chris, we did, didn't we?

Yeah, I haven't really had a chance to go over most of them, but I can just imagine what certain people have been saying.

The key is one thing that Joshua said.

Let me say, he's a nice guy, a really nice guy, and we have to separate person's beliefs from the person.

Somebody can believe what you may regard as something that's totally wacky, but that's no reason to demonize that person.

You know, there could be a good father, good provider, decent person, charitable, but maybe they have wacky beliefs or beliefs

that you regard as wacky. Other people may find them not so wacky. But the thing that bothered

me was the point in the show where I said, you can't expect science to disprove your claims. It's

up to you to make the proof available. You have to prove it to them or they're not going to pay any attention to you.

I think that's a concept.

He had some difficulty understanding.

What do you think?

You know, again, having lived in an aspiring kind of new age town for 13 years and then

having lived in the Sedona area now for almost seven, you know, I'm used to the kind of personalities

that are looking for things to really sink their teeth in in terms of their belief systems.

I mean, we're seeing the breakdown of your organized religions, I think, to a certain extent.

And they're just not supplying the spiritual sustenance, I think, that many people require to really try to be as kind

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