Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here,

we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

touring in Japan, because that's the only market where they released

the direct to cassette action movie that you scored in 1979 or else a scrappy upstart

touring in Akron, Ohio because that's the only market where your sludge metal EP has received

a single stream on Spotify. This is your show. Because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most.

An ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

They say there's nothing new under the sun,

and in the case of this episode, they would be correct.

The working songwriter has been on the air for over 10 years and 300 episodes,

and as you've probably noticed, only the latest 100 episodes are published on the podcast app, on your iPhone, and on Spotify.

So we're bringing back some of the gems from past years. Of course, if you want

access to every single episode of the show ever recorded at any time, you can become a

subscriber to The Vault. The Vault is a private members-only section of my website, joepugmusic.com,

where you can access any episode of the show for streaming and for download.

In the meantime, we're bringing back some classic episodes to the main feed.

Now, is that a reason to not join the vault?

Of course not, because it means that our latest episodes will only get paywalled all the sooner.

Is this a relatively convoluted system?

Of course it is. But such are the tradeoffs that the ever-changing media landscape leaves us with.

Thank you for being here. It's always an honor to have you listen to the show, and I hope you enjoy

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