Gene and Chris catch up on activities in 2013 and lots more with the one and only and always Don Ecker, host of the Dark Matters radio show, to discuss this crazy year, the “other” Dark Matter show, and a whole lot more. You’ll hear Don’s reaction to the constant onslaught of UFO fakers, who are exposed only to return shortly thereafter as if nothing ever happened. Is there hope for the UFO field and learning about what’s really happening in the next few years — or ever?

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