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And now here's Gene Steinberg.

This, of course, is the Paracast with Gene Steinberg and Chris O'Brien.

Now, on our recent episode with

dr richard saunter we had a buzzy busy episode we have recently then had this episode dr richard

saudder talking about underground alien bases about a certain drug he had taken and about the voices

he heard now i know chris stands by a lot of what he said and about

his research and i'll respect that but one particular problem we had with that interview is the

fact that we have this constant chronic buzzing we joked about it you know maybe he t's there

maybe there's some unaccounted for interference.

We tried to joke about it, Jane. We tried. My humor fell a little flat with the good doctor.

Yes, he doesn't appreciate. Well, it was 3.34 in the morning. At that time, we're both getting

punched drunk or something, not from any liquid refreshment, but because of the late hour yeah so he got upset over it but we probably have the solution it's nothing power normal okay it is a cell phone placed too close to his computer an old-fashioned cell phone, sending out too much RF.

And if we knew that during the interview, I would have said, throw out your cell phone, let's get on with this.

Just think what that cell phone does close to your brain.

Right. Think about that noise that you heard on this episode.

Okay? Think about the noise, ladies and gentlemen.

Now consider the impact

to your brain of all that radiation. Think of the impact to his brain, all that radiation.

Forget about all the other stuff that's going on. Right. The ayahuasca doesn't help either,

but, well, I guess in his case it might and in terms of

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