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Welcome to Stuff Mom Never Told You from House of Horts.com.

Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline.

And today is part one of a two-parter that we are doing on abortion and particularly abortion in the United States.

And I think that our talk about abortions should just go ahead and be prefaced with the clear statement that we aren't pro-abortion.

I don't think anyone is pro-abortion, but we are pro-choice.

Absolutely. Yeah, we are in favor of letting women decide whether to have children or not have children.

And honestly, Caroline, the more I learn about the history of abortion and particularly its criminalization and subsequent legalization in the United States, the more pro-choice I have become, the more deeply committed I am as a person and have become to championing that right.

Yeah, I agree. And it seems like the deeper we went into abortion history, the more it became clear to me that, well,

abortion has always happened throughout our history and will always continue to happen in one form or another.

And while it is always to some degree, Ben Ataboo, it's interesting to look at how the fight against women being able to have abortion seems so tied to seemingly ancillary issues.

Abortion seems to be caught up in the argument between, for instance, the professionalization of medicine and the professionalization of obstetrics versus those evil, sneaky, low-class midwives.

It also seems to be caught up in conversations about population growth and control about wealth versus poverty, high-class versus low-class Americans, race.

I mean, abortion itself almost seems like just another bullet point in all of these discussions that have been going on since the dawn of our country's history.

And it's so often portrayed, especially in our political landscape as a black and white issue, where you're either pro-choice or anti-choice, whereas, of course, of course, as is often the case, when you really dig into what you're talking about, there are so many different layers to it.

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