Classic: Can Atheism Deliver a Better World? Matt Dillahunty vs Glen Scrivener

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🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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In this classic Unbelievable? Big Conversation, atheist broadcaster Matt Dillahunty (The Atheist Experience) and Christian evangelist Glen Scrivener (Speak Life) clash over the foundations of morality. Is secular humanism enough, or does Christianity uniquely ground human dignity? They test claims about wellbeing, the is–ought gap, intrinsic vs extrinsic religiosity, “cancel culture,” and whether society’s benefits from religion are about truth or simply community. Expect sparky exchanges on the Bible and slavery, sacrifice and the cross, disability ethics (e.g. prenatal screening), and whether objective moral values exist without God. Matt argues for taking the best ideas—sans “baggage” while Glen contends the Christian story birthed our modern concern for the weak and marginalised. 💡 Love thoughtful dialogue between believers and sceptics? Join thousands of curious minds exploring life’s biggest questions with Premier Unbelievable? ❤️ Help us make more podcasts like this. Every gift keeps the conversation alive: premierunbelievable.com/donate. 🎥 Follow for daily clips and debate highlights: Twitter | Instagram | TikTok | Facebook

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0:30.0	Good afternoon and welcome along to the show, Unbelievable, from Premier Christian Radio here in the UK,
0:34.8	but broadcasting around the world as a podcast and bringing
0:38.2	you conversations that matter between Christians and sceptics.
0:41.4	And the big conversation partners I'm sitting down with are Matt Dillahunty and Glenn Scrivener.
0:45.7	Matt Dillahunty is a well-known voice in the world of atheist activism.
0:49.0	He hosts the atheist experience call-in show and leads to the atheist community of Austin. Glenn Scrivena is my
0:56.5	other guest. He's the director of Speak Life, an organisation using modern media to bring the
1:01.0	Christian message to a secular world. Glenn's videos have reached millions of people and often defend
1:06.1	the Christian worldview against the atheist worldview. So today we'll be looking at the modern atheist movement.
1:12.4	Can secular morality provide a better foundation for society than Christianity? And as people
1:17.7	search for meaning in an increasingly post-Christian West, can atheism deliver the grounding
1:22.7	needed for living a moral life? Glenn and Matt, welcome along to the show. Great to be here. Great to have you both with me. Really looking forward to this one today. I've even donned my glasses, which you rarely see me in on this program, but I lost a contact lens the other day. So these are my backup care. You look very studious. Thank you. I hope to bring some gravitas to the program.
1:45.0	I can grab my glasses if I need them.
1:47.0	It's all right.
1:48.0	Without number Clint.
1:49.0	Look, it's a real delight actually to have you here in the UK with us, Matt.
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