Hello, this Graham. Welcome to a classic big interview. This time we go back to season 1617. This is what I had to say about it back then.

If your team have ever been involved in a relegation battle and in Scotland there are only two teams who've never been relegated, one of which is the mighty dandies, Aberdeen,

you'll know all about the emotional roller coaster that it can cause.

If your team survived, you'll also know all about the sheer pulsating exhilaration.

Mathesia is fascinating on battling for survival at Southampton,

plus the burden of responsibility that he felt on his shoulders while trying to keep the club in the top flight.

Matt explains why Glenn Hoddle was the only manager he swore at during his career

and listen closely for reflections on Ronnie Eklund, the lost genius of European football,

Maurizio Pochitino, plus Gareth Bale. He's good on those, really interesting.

This episode was made possible by Nordoff Robbins. We spoke

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Later's.

Later. Again let me go in my curiosity. Aberdeen's my club passionate about them.

I was lucky enough to be at Potawdry when we were winning trophies with Eddie Turnbull,

Ali McLeod and then Billy McNeil was a classy man. when you know we were winning trophies with Eddie Turnbull and

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