Hello, it is Graham. Welcome to a classic big interview. This time we go back to

season 16. This is what I had to say about it back then.

Martin

Martin Obel grew up with a football field for a back garden.

Or at least he did once his dad had a secret gate installed behind the house in CS Lewis style,

so that Mark could nick out, take a ball and sneak onto the grounds of a school playing pitch.

It wasn't too long before he was stepping out at Upton Park or should that be the bowling ground and which and why? Either way, in part two of this big interview, Mark talks about that famous old ground and the final game there against

Manchester United under the lights and scripted by the good lord above I think. Mark has kept a photograph in that night, a picture of the West Ham fans looking on as he shields the ball to help see out the game.

He remains connected to that support, his community, and one of the things I like best about the entire big

interview series is Mark talking eloquently about the social housing projects

being undertaken by the Legacy Foundation which he started started alongside two other London boys who've done good,

Bobby's Amora, Rio Ferdinand.

I found that part inspirational and I'm not ashamed to say so. Mark is an ultra good footballer.

Somebody who knows what the ball is for

represents the values that make you and I love football and he's a good man too. This in my view has been a great big interview. You'll see.

Enjoy. And Mark, keep going. We got deluged with questions for you and I'm pleased that we've covered

Philip B.T's questions about penalties and I'm gonna let you off your

penalty technique because keepers are listening. Yeah, co-stile.

But Chris Burns in Manchester touched on this theme and I know that Neil's really keen on talking about

Captaincy too.

Chris says leadership is something that I think is drizzling out of society and out of football as well.

He says about you, how would you describe your leadership style?

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