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Com. And the Hello, this Graham. Welcome to a classic big interview. Today, join me. We're going back to season 2015, 2016. This is what I had to say about it back then.

I want to go back to the first time you and I met. You remember the first time, don't you?

That lovely moonlit night, the rose. Oh no, hold on.

wrong conversation. Look back to the beginning.

I told you then.

Football people I admire, football people I like listening to, football people who I want to tell me

stories that I'm curious about. But I also said people who make me laugh and for that reason

Here's Kevin

Why Kevin bridges well it's like this. We timed the issue of this podcast to be around the Champions League final in Berlin between Juventus and Barcelona. Kevin and I met in Barcelona.

He's a real Barcelona fanatic, the city, the lifestyle,

but also the football club.

He made his debut at a classical with me in the five-nill game when Joseph Rieni was also in his debut as a classical manager for Real Madrid.

Since then we've been to many classicals and I don't think Kevin has seen the team he supports Barcelona lose one yet.

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