Hello, it is Graham. Welcome to a classic big interview. Today, join me. We're going

back to season 2015, 2016. This is what I had to say about it back then.

The second edition is with Gordon Strachin. He intersects from the N Neville profile because Gordon is a man of passion, intelligence, wit, about football, a high achiever.

If you're too young to have seen him playing a lad, commiserations he was the Andrews and he

est of his time. In fact if you had a time machine and you dropped him into the

Pepquarie a la Barcelona side or indeed that of today he'd fit right in he'd be a

starter a man of creative, brave intelligence on a football pitch

worth the entry to a match on its own. In this chat, he talks about why he locked himself in his garage with a football and what he does there.

What he's learned from it. He talks about anger, anger in football, his own anger, how it it drove him but also the anger that he

witnessed a raw blazing young anger in Sir Alex Ferguson the millions he reckoned we'd

all pay to be able to witness it. But also how

relationships with through Alexberg and can scar a person for life. He's very

very good on Leeds winning the the title, Eric Canton as a rival and the need for his departure.

He's terrific to you about his preference for Andres and I Esther over Leo Massey.

When he talks about football in its current state and when he talks about him

believing that football is better now than it has ever been you'll be riveted I

promise you we tail off into territory that I think Gordon handles like no other very

very witty on punch-ups in Australian football and a crying football psychologist.

I love these chats I love them because they scratch an itch. I'm talking to people

who've got a similar outlook on the game I love to me and I hope to you listen to this. I'm certain you were able to watch

a football this week but I was at the camp now and I watched a player who's gifted

and graceful in Andres inE-Ster do things that startled and excited

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