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Unbelievable?

Classic: Against All Odds - How I Lost My Child But Retained My Faith

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this New Year’s classic edition of Unbelievable? author Jessica Kelly discusses the story behind her book Lord Willing: Wrestling with God’s Role in My Child’s Death. Jessica recounts the gradual onset of symptoms, the shock of an aggressive brain tumour diagnosis in her four-year-old son Henry, and the decision to bring him home with hospice care. She explains why she could not accept “God planned it” clichés, and how viewing God through Jesus—rather than a meticulous blueprint—helped her grieve without blaming God. In the second half, apologist Sarah Foster from the Pfander Centre discusses engaging Muslims in London, the questions young Christians face, and why churches should equip youth to respond with truth and love. A moving, candid conversation about suffering, faith, and witness today. SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0

My dad died when I was nine years old and it broke something in me.

0:05.0

I spent lots of times homeless, causing even bigger rifts in the family.

0:10.0

I was out of control.

0:12.0

Green Pastures is a Christian charity providing homes and support for people facing homelessness across the UK.

0:20.0

As soon as I walked in that place,

0:21.6

I knew there was something different about it.

0:23.6

Through Green Pastures,

0:25.6

Andy found a home,

0:26.6

freedom from addiction,

0:28.6

and a new beginning in faith.

0:30.6

It's the best thing I've ever done.

0:31.6

It released me from that 23 years of addiction.

0:35.6

And now I'm senior support worker here at Green Pastures Derby.

0:39.9

Find out more at greenpastures.com.uk.

0:45.8

Well, good afternoon and welcome along to Unbelievable.

0:48.8

A special New Year's edition of the programme.

0:51.3

When I'm going to be joined by a couple of female guests on the show.

0:54.7

Look forward to introducing them to you. So important stories to be told about theology and real

1:00.3

life in the real world. I'll be joined by Jessica Kelly talking about the unusual circumstances

1:07.2

that led her to write her book Lord Willing and a little bit later on by Sarah Foster as well,

1:12.6

who's an apologist with Fanda apologetics,

1:15.9

and going to be talking about her interactions with Muslims in London.

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