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Imaginary Worlds

Class of '84: Rise of The Villains

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Arts, Science Fiction, Fiction, Society & Culture

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

This year marks the 40th anniversary of a lot of landmarks in pop culture, especially sci-fi and fantasy. So many franchises were born in 1984. Some came to define their genre or invent new genres. In this three-part mini-series, we look at how The Class of ’84 made their mark on the world. First up: the bad guys. 1984 was a great year for villains from The Terminator to Freddy Krueger to Gremlins and Ghostbusters. I talk with make-up and creature designers Neill Gorton and Shannon Shea (who worked on Terminator and Nightmare On Elm Street sequels) about why the '80s was a golden age of monsters. Criminal psychology professor Yannie ten Brooke analyzes the ’84 villains and why they scared us. And I talk with pastor and podcaster JR Forasteros about why they don’t make villains like they used to – for better and for worse. You can also find Shannon at Two Chez on Etsy. Today’s episode is sponsored by Magic Spoon and Green Chef. Go to magicspoon.com/imaginary to grab a variety pack and be sure to use our promo code IMAGINARY at checkout to save five dollars off your order. Go to greenchef.com/60imaginary and use the code 60imaginary to get 60% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to imaginary worlds, a show about how we create them and why we suspend or disbelief. I'm Eric Melinsky.

0:07.0

In my elementary school, every year the dedicated day to talk about nuclear war, that cancel classes, would watch a movie about

0:16.6

Hiroshima, and then we'd have breakout sessions with the teachers to talk about our fears.

0:22.3

And I remember in one of those sessions, this kid said, very matter of

0:25.8

faculty, none of us are going to live to see our high school graduation. Everyone was quiet,

0:31.7

even the teacher. The Cold War was so Everyone was the so hot that year

0:35.0

1984. How could it end any other way?

0:38.0

How could it end any other way?

0:42.0

1984 was the first way.

0:43.0

1984 was the first year. I became totally aware of what was going on in the world.

0:49.0

I went from 12 to 13, elementary school to junior high, and it was quite a year to have that kind of awareness.

0:57.4

I remember there was already a lot of anticipation going into 1984 because of the novel. People actually wondered if the novel would suddenly

1:06.4

come true or we'd realize that Big Brother had been on our walls all along. But instead of an Orwellian dystopia, we got a lot of fun stuff.

1:16.1

16 candles. Karate kid, Miami Vice, Purple Rain, Like a Virgin, born in the USA.

1:25.0

1984 was also a huge year for science fiction and fantasy,

1:29.0

from movies to TV shows, to novels, to comics, to video games. So we are kicking off a mini series

1:36.1

about different works of sci-fi and fantasy that made their debut 40 years ago

1:41.1

and they're still having an impact today.

1:44.7

And when I looked at the sci-fi and fantasy movies from 1984,

1:48.4

right away I noticed a murderer's row of villains. In fact, four movies caught my eye. These four films were

1:56.4

meant to be mainstream blockbusters, but they were also manifestations of

2:00.8

our collective anxieties.

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