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Welcome to Sick Boy, a podcast where we talk about what it's like to be sick.

This week's guest is Valerie.

She survived a plane crash.

You heard that right?

A plane crash.

Let's talk about it.

There has been a number of times on this podcast where we have spoken to folks from across Canada down into the United States, mainly around North America, about really traumatic events, specifically dealing with accidents.

And oftentimes, actually, I think every single time, those accidents occurred in cars.

Now, we did at one point speak to a woman who had an airplane-related, I guess, adjacent accident where her parachute didn't open.

And that was kind of mind-boggling.

But today, we're going to check a box.

We're going to tick something off the firsts

for sick boy list we are speaking to someone who has survived a plane crash which is I think probably

like there's I would say I have no idea that but I'm just going to throw it out there

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