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The Dig

Clash of Empires w/ Ho-fung Hung

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2022

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

The second of our two-part interview with sociologist Ho-fung Hung on Chinese political and economic history. This episode covers the 2008 financial crisis, how China’s response deepened global and domestic economic imbalances and (alongside the US) heightened geopolitical conflict, the current situation—including Russia’s invasion—and a lot more. Listen to part one first if you haven't already. Support this podcast at Patreon.com/TheDig

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:04.8

and by Verso Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners

0:10.1

like you.

0:11.9

One that you might like is Revolutionary Mathematics, Artificial Intelligence, Statistics, and

0:18.1

the Logic of Capitalism by Justin Jock.

0:21.8

Our finances, politics, media, opportunities, information, shopping, and knowledge production

0:27.5

are mediated through algorithms and their statistical approaches to knowledge.

0:32.3

Increasingly, these methods form the organizational backbone of contemporary capitalism.

0:39.7

Revolutionary Mathematics traces this revolution in statistics and probability that is quietly

0:44.7

underwritten the explosion of machine learning, big data, and predictive algorithms that

0:50.1

now decide many aspects of our lives.

0:53.4

This book provides a new and unique perspective on the dangers of allowing artificial intelligence

0:58.5

and big data to manage society.

1:01.5

It is essential reading for those who want to understand the underlying ideological and

1:06.9

philosophical changes that have fueled the rise of algorithms and convinced so many to

1:12.9

blindly trust their outputs, reshaping our current political and economic situation.

1:19.6

Revolutionary Mathematics by Justin Jock, out now from Verso Books.

1:34.8

Welcome to the Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

1:38.3

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:43.4

Today is part two of my two-part interview with sociologist Ho Fung Hung, the author of

1:48.6

the book The China Boom.

1:50.4

Why China will not rule the world?

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