Hello, I'm Yonite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

And we are unholy. Two Jews on the news from Kesheap podcasts.

Hi, Jonathan.

Hello, you're neat.

It's a sort of, it's a kind of somber hello today, isn't it?

I mean, the world is in a dark place, it feels.

So it's hard to be super cheery.

I'm guessing you're just absolutely run ragged broadcasting news all hours and on the air all the time to awaiting Israeli nation.

Yeah, you know, walking here around the newsroom and you see these televisions in all kinds of languages from all kinds of places in the world,

all have the same Kairan war in Europe. And it really, as you said, it's not a good mood day, right? It does make

you feel concerned and despondent. And we've been through this year, two years of COVID and

being immersed in, you know, the R and the infection rates. And it kind of now that

the fifth wave is waning, we actually realize that what humans can do to humans is always

worse than anything else. We don't need viruses. We don't need pandemics. It's just back to this.

And that's very depressing. Yeah. I know lots of

people have been feeling this, that one way and another, when is the news going to stop? You know,

when is history going to give us a break? There's too much history happening. And it was like,

okay, we've got out of a global pandemic. Before that, you know, the world was parts of it,

anyway, trembling at the prospect of

Donald Trump as president and just wanting a kind of breather. And remember, it was the big

promise of Joe Biden that there would be a return to normality. And instead, as you say,

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