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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Claims of 'Christian Genocide' in Nigeria, Explained

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

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4.4663 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

President Trump and his allies are framing the kidnappings and other attacks in Nigeria as Islamic attacks on Christians, and even threatening military action

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0:00.0

From WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Wednesday, November 26th.

0:15.3

We're going to talk about the nation of Nigeria now. Maybe you know, maybe you're connected to Nigeria from Nigeria,

0:23.3

roots in Nigeria, but if you're not, you may not know that Nigeria is in the news facing a

0:30.9

surge of violence and a security situation that analysts say has been deteriorating for years.

0:36.5

There have been mass kidnappings at schools

0:39.5

recently and deadly attacks in rural communities. But here in the U.S., there is a U.S. element to this.

0:46.7

The violence has been pulled into a very different conversation. President Trump and some of his

0:51.9

allies are describing these incidents as part of an organized Islamist

0:55.9

campaign targeting Christians, and the president has even threatened U.S. military action

1:01.6

in response.

1:03.1

Now, we should say Nigerian officials and many experts who watch the region closely say

1:08.2

that picture is incomplete at best.

1:10.6

Extremist groups have killed Christians, but also Muslims in Nigeria, and some of the

1:16.0

deadliest attacks grow out of land disputes, resource conflicts, and a security system

1:22.3

stretched far beyond its capacity for like 15 years. At the same time, armed bandit gangs have become one of the biggest threats in the country,

1:31.6

hidden communities of many faiths.

1:33.7

And in the middle of all, those families are still searching for more than 250 children.

1:38.6

This is what's in the news as the immediate hook.

1:41.2

More than 250 children, still missing missing taken from a Catholic boarding school

1:46.6

just last week.

1:48.1

So joining us now is NPR, international correspondent, Emmanuel Akunwatu, to help us untangle

1:55.5

what's really driving the violence, also, excuse me, how it's framed in Washington and why the reality is far more

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