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The Duran Podcast

Civilizational War. Zero Sum Game Theory Politics w/ Cynthia Chung

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🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Civilizational War. Zero Sum Game Theory Politics w/ Cynthia Chung


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0:00.0

All right, Alexander, we are here today with Cynthia Chung, first time on the Duran, and we are

0:05.8

very happy to have Cynthia with her. We follow her work on Substack. Cynthia, welcome to the Duran.

0:12.4

Thank you for joining us. And where can people follow your work? I mentioned Substack.

0:17.8

Yeah, it's through a glass darkly, which is a Cynthiachung.substack.com.

0:23.7

I have that as a link in the description box down below, and I will also add it as a pinned comment.

0:28.6

We highly recommend everyone start following Cynthia's substack, an incredible substack.

0:35.1

Alexander, Cynthia, let's talk about everything that is happening in the world, maybe put

0:40.9

some focus on the conflict in the Middle East and see where it goes.

0:46.1

Indeed, let's absolutely do that.

0:48.0

And we are privileged to talk with Cynthia Chung about these things today because events in the Middle East are taking

0:56.5

an increasingly civilizational and cultural quality if you listen to some of the rhetoric

1:05.0

that's now coming out now. And well, the President of the United States has been making a whole succession of,

1:14.1

I found them extremely alarming and worrying statements on social media. And he's now followed up

1:23.3

with just another one, a short time ago, in which he spoke about events leading to the destruction,

1:31.4

the death of Iran's civilization. And he actually spoke about that, and he discussed it in

1:39.1

a social post. And this, I have to say, this kind of language appalls me.

1:50.0

And it is, by the way, the kind of language which can absolutely be used.

1:55.4

And I say this without any qualification, any potential war crimes prosecution, were one ever brought, however unlikely

2:04.7

that might seem.

2:07.9

But Cynthia has been writing about precisely these kind of civilizational issues for a very,

2:16.4

very long time and about the extremely dark turn that we have been taking in the West recently,

2:25.3

which perhaps has brought us to this rhetoric and to these sort of actions.

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