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In Our Time

Civility: talking with those who disagree with you

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.69.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the idea that Civility, in one of its meanings, is among the most valuable social virtues: the skill to discuss topics that really matter to you, with someone who disagrees and yet somehow still get along. In another of its meanings, when Civility describes the limits of behaviour that is acceptable, the idea can reflect society at its worst: when only those deemed 'civil enough' are allowed their rights, their equality and even their humanity. Between these extremes, Civility is a slippery idea that has fascinated philosophers especially since the Reformation, when competing ideas on how to gain salvation seemed to make it impossible to disagree and remain civil.

With

Teresa Bejan Professor of Political Theory at Oriel College, University of Oxford

Phil Withington Professor of History at the University of Sheffield

And

John Gallagher Associate Professor of Early Modern History at the University of Leeds

Producer: Simon Tillotson

Reading list:

Teresa M. Bejan, Mere Civility: Disagreement and the Limits of Toleration (Harvard University Press, 2017)

Anna Bryson, From Courtesy to Civility: Changing Codes of Conduct in Early Modern England (Oxford University Press, 1998)

Peter Burke, The Fortunes of the Courtier: The European Reception of Castiglione’s Cortegiano (Polity Press, 1995)

Peter Burke, Brian Harrison and Paul Slack (eds.), Civil Histories: Essays Presented to Sir Keith Thomas (Oxford University Press, 2000)

Keith J. Bybee, How Civility Works (Stanford University Press, 2016)

Nandini Das, João Vicente Melo, Haig Z. Smith and Lauren Working, Keywords of Identity, Race, and Human Mobility in Early Modern England (Amsterdam University Press, 2021)

Jurgen Habermas, The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere (Polity, 1992)

Jennifer Richards, Rhetoric and Courtliness in Early Modern Literature (Cambridge University Press, 2003)

Austin Sarat (ed.), Civility, Legality, and Justice in America (Cambridge University Press, 2014)

Keith Thomas, In Pursuit of Civility: Manners and Civilization in Early Modern England (Yale University Press, 2018)

Phil Withington, Society in Early Modern England: The Vernacular Origins of Some Powerful Ideas (Polity, 2010)

Lauren Working, The Making of an Imperial Polity: Civility and America in the Jacobean Metropolis (Cambridge University Press, 2020)

In Our Time is a BBC Studios Audio Production

Spanning history, religion, culture, science and philosophy, In Our Time from BBC Radio 4 is essential listening for the intellectually curious. In each episode, host Melvyn Bragg and expert guests explore the characters, events and discoveries that have shaped our world.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

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This is in our time from BBC Radio 4, and this is one of more than a thousand episodes you can find on BBC Sounds and on our website.

0:13.1

If you scroll down the page for this edition, you can find a reading list to go with it.

0:17.4

I hope you enjoyed the programme.

0:20.0

Hello, civility, in in one sense is among the most

0:23.2

valuable virtues in society. The skill to discuss topics that really matter to you with someone

0:29.1

who disagrees and somehow get along. In another of its senses, when civility describes the

0:35.7

limits of acceptable behavior, it can reflect society

0:39.2

at its worst, when only those deemed civil enough are allowed their rights, their equality,

0:44.5

even their humanity.

0:46.4

And, as we'll hear, civility is a slippery idea that's fascinated philosophers especially

0:51.7

since the Reformation, when competing ideas and how to gain salvation

0:55.9

seem to make civil disagreement impossible.

1:00.1

With me to discuss the idea of civility are John Gallagher,

1:03.2

Associate Professor of Early Modern History at the University of Leeds,

1:07.1

Phil Whittington, Professor of History at the University of Sheffield,

1:10.7

and Theresa Bijam, Professor of Political Theory at Oriel College, University of Oxford.

1:16.6

Theresa, so that we can hold on to this during the discussion, can you give us your definition of civility at its best?

1:24.7

Well, even at its best, I think civility is sort of notoriously difficult to define. There

1:30.0

are many different senses of civility that come up historically, many of which will now come on to.

1:34.7

But I would define civility, and I think civility as we invoke it today, as describing a particular

1:41.7

social or conversational virtue. And it's one that's pertinent in particular

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