Civilians v. ICE
Think from KERA
KERA
4.7 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
As the federal government deploys thousands of ICE agents across the country, activists are finding ways to push back. Molly Hennessy-Fiske, national reporter for The Washington Post, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss how the killing of Renée Good has put new focus on the tactics protestors use, how tactics like tailing unmarked cars used by agents has put activists in murky legal territory, and what legal experts say about charges that could be brought against protestors. Her article is “They say they’re monitoring ICE arrests. Feds say they’re breaking the law.”
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| 0:00.0 | The country was still trying to make sense of Renee Goods' death in Minneapolis, January 7th, caught on video by multiple witnesses. |
| 0:18.2 | And then over the weekend, it happened again. On January 24th, Alex |
| 0:22.1 | Prettie was tackled to the ground and shot multiple times by ICE officers. Both were civilians, |
| 0:28.3 | both were U.S. citizens, both were in the vicinity of ICE operations to act as self-appointed |
| 0:33.4 | civilian monitors of federal officers' actions. From KERA in Dallas, this is think. |
| 0:39.9 | I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 0:41.3 | The Constitution makes clear our First Amendment rights to free speech and peaceable assembly, |
| 0:46.3 | and courts have clarified that freedom of expression extends to the right to observe |
| 0:51.2 | and record what's happening in public places. |
| 0:53.7 | But in Minnesota, where thousands of ICE agents have been sent to apprehend undocumented immigrants, |
| 1:00.0 | civilian expressions of constitutional rights have been met with lethal violence. |
| 1:04.0 | Molly Hennessy Fisk is a national reporter for the Washington Post who's been covering the activities of civilian ice monitors. Just to note, |
| 1:11.7 | she and I spoke before Alex Pretti was killed. Molly, welcome to think. Thanks for having me. |
| 1:18.2 | We should first talk about why civilians in some parts of the country are mobilizing to monitor |
| 1:23.9 | and document ICE actions. I mean, immigration and customs enforcement officers have |
| 1:28.2 | been charged with finding and arresting undocumented immigrants for more than 20 years. |
| 1:32.9 | Is there something different about the way the agency is working now? |
| 1:36.8 | Well, I think in particular, as I saw on the ground in Minneapolis and in the Twin Cities, |
| 1:43.4 | there are so many more ICE officers |
| 1:48.2 | who are out in these neighborhoods. It has really taken people aback. And then especially in the |
| 1:54.3 | wake of Renee Good being shot and people seeing the videos that were captured by these volunteer ice observers, |
| 2:03.8 | they call themselves a rapid response. |
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