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Critics at Large | The New Yorker

“Civil War” ’s Unsettling Images

Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Society & Culture

4.4679 Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

“Civil War,” Alex Garland’s divisive new action flick, borrows iconography—and actual footage—from the America of today as set dressing for a hypothetical, fractured future. Though we know that the President is in his third term, and that Texas and California have formed an unlikely alliance against him, very little is said about the politics that brought us to this point. Garland’s true interest lies not with the cause of the carnage but with the journalists compelled to document it. On this episode of Critics at Large, the staff writers Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz debate whether the film glamorizes violence, or whether it’s an indictment of the way audiences have become inured to it through repeated exposure. The hosts consider Susan Sontag’s “On Photography,” which assesses the impact of the craft, and “War Is Beautiful,” a compendium that explores how photojournalists have historically aestheticized and glorified unthinkable acts. From the video of George Floyd’s killing to photos of Alan Kurdi, the young Syrian refugee found lying dead on a Turkish beach, images of atrocities have galvanized movements and commanded international attention. But what does it mean to bear witness in the age of social media, with daily, appalling updates from conflict zones at our fingertips? “I think all of us are struggling with what to make of this complete overabundance,” Schwartz says. “On the other hand, we’re certainly aware of horror. It’s impossible to ignore.”
Read, watch, and listen with the critics:


“Civil War” (2024)
“Ex Machina” (2014)
“Natural Born Killers” (1994)
“The Doom Generation” (1995)
War Is Beautiful,” by David Shields
On Photography,” by Susan Sontag
“Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold” (2017)


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0:00.0

Welcome to Critics at Large, a podcast from The New Yorker.

0:09.4

I'm Alex Schwartz.

0:10.7

I'm Nomi Fry.

0:11.8

And I'm Vincent Cunningham.

0:13.6

Each week on this show, we make sense of what's happening in the culture right now and how we got here.

0:24.3

Now, if you're the kind of thrill seeker whose idea of a good time is to watch your own country torn to shreds by brutal war, boy, do we have a movie for you?

0:35.9

It's called Civil War. You may have heard of it.

0:38.1

It's the big, buzzy new movie from 824, and it is written and directed by Alex Garland.

0:45.9

Citizens of America.

0:47.7

People to Florida alike.

0:51.5

And the Western forces of Texas and California.

0:57.0

We'll be welcome back to these United States as soon as their illegal secessionist government is deposed.

1:07.0

Garland's vibe, I think, if I had to describe it.

1:09.7

And you do.

1:10.5

And it is my job to do so.

1:13.0

Your duty, your job.

1:15.0

Is that he is an artist of the worst case scenario.

1:19.0

What are some of his films that sort of fit this bill?

1:22.0

Well, I'm thinking of ex machina.

1:24.0

That's a movie about AI and, you know, a beautiful woman who's actually an AI, played by Alicia Vakander, is being held captive by, I think, Oscar Isaac.

1:35.7

By definitely Oscar Isaac.

1:36.9

Yeah, he was great in that movie.

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