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Solvable

Civil War is Solvable

Solvable

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, News

4.4602 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Anne Applebaum talks to Juan Manuel Santos, former president of Colombia and Nobel Peace Laureate, about ending more than 50 years of conflict in his country. 

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:14.0

I'm Maeve Higgins and this is Solvable.

0:17.0

Interviews with the world's most innovative thinkers working to solve the world's biggest problems.

0:22.9

My solvable is to find the ways to end civil armed conflicts and to find reconciliation.

0:33.0

That's Juan Manuel Santos, former president of Colombia, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2016

0:40.0

for his role in ending more than 50 years of conflict in that country. Now, as you can tell from my

0:47.3

accent, I'm Irish. I grew up in the Republic of Ireland, which was far from the violence and

0:53.2

the terror happening up in Northern

0:55.1

Ireland at the time. And I was too young to vote in the referendum for the Good Friday Agreement,

1:01.4

which was this incredible development in the peace process between Ireland and Britain and

1:06.7

Northern Ireland. But I have to say, I remember so much relief and just such huge joy all over

1:14.2

the country when the agreement was ratified and the violence was over. Now, in Ireland, it hasn't

1:20.8

been a perfect peace, but certainly lives were saved and sanity was restored to this region that was in complete turmoil.

1:29.7

So I was reading this UN report and 100 years ago, whenever there was war, 90% of the casualties

1:37.4

were military personnel and 10% were civilians, mainly women and children. And now that number has totally reversed.

1:46.1

In a war today, 90% of casualties are civilians.

1:51.4

To understand how difficult it is to end a civil war or any armed conflict, really,

1:57.8

perhaps it's useful to look at the conflicts ongoing today.

2:03.6

There's this ongoing conflict mapping project. It's called the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project.

2:07.6

And this year, just up until May of 2019,

2:11.6

they reported over 8,000 deaths in places like India, Syria, Yemen and Nigeria.

2:18.3

And across the world, overall violence causes 1.6 million deaths every year.

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