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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Civil Rights Lawyer Bryan Stevenson on James Baldwin’s Courage

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Bryan Stevenson finds courage and compassion in James Baldwin’s writing, which helps him face some of the hardest realities of being Black in America’s brutal criminal justice system.

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Hello, my name is R.

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R.

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Hello, my name is Raseer Iqbal. Welcome to our podcast, Notes on a Native Sun about James Baldwin.

0:19.0

This year marks the 100th birth anniversary of a man unique in American letters.

0:24.4

Novelist, essayist, activist, achingly prescient about race and racial politics in America,

0:31.6

but also those connecting ideas, the idealized notion of the American dream,

0:37.0

and what it means to be an American.

0:40.8

The list of who James Baldwin is and what he meant is long and it also goes completely

0:46.7

against what Baldwin might say about himself.

0:51.2

I was called all kinds of names.

0:52.4

I had all kinds of labels on me before I was 19 years old.

0:55.0

You have to tell the world, I'm not your label. The label belongs to you, it doesn't belong to me.

1:01.0

And I have nobody to answer to. I had to defeat the world's intentions.

1:09.4

And the only way I could do that was to make it very clear that I am not at all what I seem to be to you.

1:19.0

I know what you are seeing, but I'm not that person and I will make you know it

1:26.2

and I'm not that person.

1:31.2

So perhaps Jimmy Baldwin the iconoclast is our subject.

1:37.0

There are many writers who shun biographies preferring through the lens of their work to be their own biographers.

1:47.0

This podcast tries to get close to that.

1:50.0

We have called it Notes on a native son after one of Baldwin's most famous autobiographical essays,

1:56.5

Notes of a native son, which begins with a recollection of his 19th birthday,

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