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The Brian Lehrer Show

City Politics: Cuomo, Mamdani Continue to Spar

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Elizabeth Kim talks about the latest news from the campaign trail, including Andrew Cuomo's social media attack on Zohran Mamdani over his rent-stabilized apartment.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lairn show on WNYC. I'm Matt Katz, former reporter here at WNYC. I'm now running a local news podcast in Philadelphia called CityCast Philly, and I'm filling in for Brian today.

0:23.5

Coming up on the show, we're going to talk about President Trump's move to take control of the police department in Washington, D.C.

0:31.0

My guest, David Graham from the Atlantic, says it's a raw assertion of presidential power, a pattern for Trump.

0:37.8

Plus, later in the show, why the public health messaging around vaping and using nicotine

0:42.1

pouches is so mixed.

0:44.0

Let's put it this way.

0:44.9

We've known for decades that smoking cigarettes is addictive and harmful for long-term health,

0:50.2

but as vaping or using a Zin pouch, which both contain nicotine just as bad or a less bad alternative?

0:56.8

We'll get into all of that.

0:58.5

And we'll wrap today's show with a call-in for you to share your memories of AOL, since the company announced this week that it's ending its dial-up internet service.

1:08.1

This one is especially for the young Gen Xers, elder millennials,

1:13.2

older Gen Zers among us. You know, that sound, that dial-up sound was a defining feature of my

1:20.0

teenage years and maybe yours too if you fall into one of those generational groups.

1:25.1

But first, we begin in New York City with WNYC and Gothamist reporter Elizabeth

1:30.2

Kim for our weekly coverage of the latest news in the mayor's race. Typically, the month of

1:35.6

August is a slow period for local elections, but the candidates right now are unusually

1:41.4

fired up throughout the Democratic primary assembly member Zoran

1:46.0

Mamdani was the aggressive underdog punching up at the frontrunner, Andrew Cuomo. But now that

1:51.7

Mamdani's polling 20 points ahead of the former governor, the roles have reversed. Cuomo, now

1:57.8

running as an independent, is unleashing the fire he kept contained during his frontrunner days with a relentless social media campaign highlighting Mamdani's privileged upbringing in an attempt to underscore the contradictions between his politics and Mamdani's life experience.

2:15.2

He's zeroed in on Mamdani's apartment, a $2,300 rental in Astoria,

2:20.6

which is presumably a great price in a city where the average cost of a one-bedroom is over $4,000.

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