Hello and welcome to another episode of the City Journal podcast.

I am your host, Raphael Manguel, and I am delighted to be joined by my favorite colleagues,

Judge Glock and John Ketchum.

Welcome back to the show, gentlemen.

Very glad to be back.

Wonderful being here.

It's been a while since we've had a sort of panel-style show, which I've always enjoyed

because I feel like the conversation is just more dynamic.

And we have a lot to talk about.

Particularly today, I want to focus on the affordability discourse.

So, City Journal just put out this package of essays.

I had one. Both of you had excellent

ones on an affordability agenda. And of course, that term has kind of become more ubiquitous than

almost anything in the American political discourse today, right? Everything's an affordability

discourse, right? You've got the abundance bros. You've got, you know, the budget hawks. And then, of course, you have the DSA types who see no limits on how much of our money they can spend. So I want to talk today just about some of the things that you both wrote about in your pieces. Judge, let's start with you. You had an awesome piece about sales tax.

And it just brought to mind this old meme

that I've always found hysterical.

It was kind of like a comic strip in this,

but you have a bunch of people sitting around a boardroom table

and they're discussing how they can make life more affordable.

And one guy just, you know, kind of opens his mouth and goes, well, how about we let them

keep more of their money?

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