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The Roys Report

Citizen Journalist Sued by Apologia Church Fights Back

The Roys Report

Julie Roys

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Christianity

4.5839 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Guest Bios Show Transcript Lawsuits are a common intimidation tactic when powerful figures are accused of wrongdoing, especially in churches. Threatening legal action can silence survivors, whistleblowers, and journalists. But Sarah Young, a citizen journalist and founder of Check My Church, is refusing to bow to the pressure of a lawsuit brought by Apologia Church in Mesa, Arizona. And Sarah joins Julie in this episode to discuss how defamation lawsuits are used to intimidate critics and how those efforts sometimes collapse in court.  

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0:00.0

It's a common intimidation tactic used by people in power when accused of wrongdoing.

0:09.0

Filing a lawsuit or just threatening to file can cause survivors and whistleblowers to shrink in fear.

0:15.0

But sometimes this tactic backfires.

0:18.0

Just weeks ago, a Washington court ruled against disgrace pastor

0:22.1

Mecon Carter, who sued his former secretary for defamation after she claimed Carter essayed

0:28.1

her. Not only did the court throw out Carter's lawsuit, it also ordered him to pay his former

0:33.8

secretary's legal fees. Similarly, last March, a federal judge dismissed all but one

0:39.4

count of a lawsuit brought by former Southern Baptist Convention president, Johnny Hunt. Hunt had sued

0:45.3

the SBC, its executive committee, and Guidepost solutions for publishing allegations in a report

0:51.5

that Hunt had sexually abused another pastor's wife. But the judge found

0:56.4

that the statements in the report were supported by the findings of Guidepost's investigation.

1:01.4

He also found that Hunt had failed to show falsity, actual malice, or outrageous conduct on the part

1:07.4

of the defendants. Yet sometimes, the accused doesn't just go after the alleged victim,

1:12.6

but also targets the journalist or media outlet that reported the allegation. This happened to me

1:18.4

in 2018 when Harvest Bible Chapel and its pastor, James McDonald, sued me prior to publication.

1:25.3

They also tried to slap me with a temporary restraining order to keep me

1:28.9

from publishing. The court threw out the restraining order, properly recognizing that it was an

1:33.9

attempt at prior restraint, which is unconstitutional. But Harvest and McDonald also ended up

1:40.1

dropping that lawsuit and paying all the legal fees for me and two other defendants.

1:45.2

Fortunately, the U.S. Constitution leans heavily toward protecting freedom of speech, especially

1:50.8

when a public figure is involved.

1:53.2

But that doesn't mean being the target of a lawsuit isn't terrifying.

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