How I write is I'll just be playing strum and on a guitar and and and doing that you know every day consistently

then something good happens out of it and it's really when you kind of mind

shuts off and you kind of let the muse happen and it's a really strange thing that I mean you're so because you're there and

you're in the in the moment or whatever you're you kind of are responsible but not really.

I believe that each and every one of us has the power within ourselves to create the life that we really want.

And I want to help give you the tools to make that happen.

I'm Danica Patrick and I'm pretty intense.

Today's a very special guest that people probably know much better as Citizen Cope but his real name is

Clarence Greenwood and we we got into the business of music he is a musician he writes musician. He writes his own, he writes his own stuff, but you'll also

understand maybe the root of where it came from at the beginning of the interview where we talked about what his mom made him do to get

allowance to do certain things or get away with certain things or buy certain things, which is really foreshadowing in his whole life of being a writer and a poet.

And so we talked about that.

We talked about the business of music, about privacy, we talked about the difficulties of the everything but he doesn't really have a genre, never really has identified or

cared about what it was called that he played, whether it was pop or rock or soul.

It just doesn't matter to him.

He's just a purest at heart with his music.

And we got into spirituality.

He, I mean, look, we got into talking about guys like Eckhart Toli and Alan Watts these

amazing philosophers that have led him down a really positive path mentally to get to a better place and to retrain his

brain to think more positively.

And I'm going to tell you he does.

He has turned really difficult experiences into his life, like his father passing in the abuse as a young boy into,

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