Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm Sarah Isger, that's Jonah Goldberg and Steve Haze.

Oki-doki. Well, we've got some things to talk about this week. And yeah, if you're sick of

hearing about the indictment, I'm sorry, this is not going to be your podcast today. But we are

going to talk about the various components of it, the political components, the legal components,

even if you've already listened to Ayo, we'll try to keep the legal stuff short.

So let's dive right in. I'll give a little overview here. So last week, after our last podcast,

Donald Trump was indicted on 37 counts, one through 31 related to the willful retention of

classified documents. I think it's relevant that those charges are not him taking documents

from the White House. All of those charges stem from after the FBI asked for the documents back.

Then, interestingly, 32 through 37 are your lying false statements, obstruction, all the things

he did to try to not give the documents back, including along with his personal aid and

former bodyman at the White House, who was also charged in one of those counts.

All right, so Steve, I'm going to start with you because we had our third ever staff editorial

that was published today. I thought maybe you'd want to introduce some of that.

Yeah, we had been discussing since the indictment came down weighing in on this.

We did not do an editorial related to the indictment in New York, which I think virtually all of us

agreed was rather flimsy, somewhat political and a legal reach with its bank shot approach.

But this one seemed much more substantive, much more notable.

And his story. So we looked at both the indictment itself and what we make of the charges,

particularly in light of the reaction that we've seen from the mixed reaction we've seen from

elected Republicans, and then also sort of the broader context into which this indictment

fell with Donald Trump. Looking like he may well end up being a convicted felon at some point.

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