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Cinephilia (Updated)

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Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2016

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In this hour, we explore people's obsessions with movies and talk with legendary filmmaker Werner Herzog. Room 237 - Manohla Dargis; Werner Herzog Strives for the 'Ecstatic Truth'; Frank - Jon Ronson; Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for WPR comes from Minnesota Marine Art Museum in Winona, presenting 10 exhibitions per year,

0:06.8

and home to masterworks by Picasso, Van Gogh, and Loitza's Washington Crossing the Delaware.

0:12.5

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0:18.3

It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anne Strange Champs. Today,

0:22.3

Cineophilia, movie love.

0:28.1

You know how sometimes you fall in love with a movie, so much you watch it over and over again?

0:34.3

Well, some movie fans take that devotion to a whole other level. For instance,

0:39.4

remember The Shining? Stanley Kubrick's creepy movie about a writer and his family in a haunted

0:44.8

hotel, there are ghosts and rivers of blood and then Jack Nicholson tries to kill everyone.

0:50.0

It's pretty scary. What turns out there are some super fans who have watched The Shining 20 or 30 times,

0:56.8

even frame by frame, and they found what they believe are secret clues, messages that Kubrick hid in the film.

1:04.6

And now there's a movie about those obsessed fans.

1:07.7

It's called Room 237, made by director Rodney Asher. New York Times film critic Manola Dargis thinks it's kind of creepy and kind of fascinating.

1:16.8

He talks to five different movie fans, all of whom have kind of far out ideas about the movie.

1:23.4

It's a documentary, I would say, only in quotation marks, in the sense that they're making all of this up with this material that they've watched.

1:31.9

It's like we are so deep in movie land that inside the movie that we're watching, Room 237, we never have a cutaway to some person like Jeffrey Cox, who's one of the people who has a very wild interpretation of the

1:45.0

movie, you never cut away to see him speaking in, let's say, his living room.

1:49.1

You know, there's no talking headshot of him sitting in an office in the real world.

1:53.9

So for me, it's a kind of acknowledgement that the movie and everything that we're listening to

1:59.6

has no reference in the real world.

2:01.6

And since I'm trained as an historian and my special expertise is in the history of Germany and Nazi Germany in particular,

2:11.6

I became more and more convinced that there is in this film a deeply laid subtext that takes on the Holocaust.

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