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Hi, FeverDreams is no longer producing new episodes, so I wanted to share another political

podcast from The Daily Beast. It's called The New Abnormal. Enjoy this episode and subscribe

at the Daily Beast.com slash podcast or on your favorite major podcast player. For the past 33 years,

the Electronic Frontier Foundation has been defending civil liberties in the digital world,

defending free speech online, opposing surveillance, and promoting things like open source software,

file sharing, and encryption. Joining me now is EFF executive director and co-host of the How to Fix

the Internet podcast, Cindy Kohn.

Cindy, thanks so much for being here.

Oh, thank you for inviting me on.

So I want to start by talking about something that's been in the news lately.

It's a thing called the Restrict Act.

It's being described as a TikTok ban, but that's not all it is, right?

And it's actually pretty bad. Yeah, I think it's very

bad. Regardless of what people think about TikTok, this bill is a really bad way to go about

trying to address any concerns that people might have. I mean, the thing that it's changing,

it gets a little wonky, but there's a thing called the Berman Amendment that basically

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