All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of The Teardown.

My name is Jeff.

Welcome to my co-worker Jordan and Yankee.

We are motorsports writers for the athletic.

And Jordan right now is at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and one of Roger Penske's fancy podcast booths that he built for the media, I think, during the pandemic.

And hopefully Jordan is not bothering the

entire media center. I just saw you had to put in your earphones there, Jordan. So maybe I was

bothering the entire media center before you put it. I figured I'd just be better safe and

sorry. Okay. All right. Nobody wants to. They are beautiful rooms, but for some reason, they left

like the top of them.

Yeah, the ceiling's open.

Yeah, which I'm not, I'm not questioning Roger Petitsky's decisions or anything, but

seems a little questionable.

Well, you got to have air, Jordan.

You have a lot of hot air when you talk on the podcast.

So it's very interesting.

You got to have the air.

The air has got to go somewhere.

It's got to go somewhere, Jordan. Very true.

But listen, wow, this is, I've been anxiously awaiting this conversation to talk to you about this race, the Indianapolis Roadcourse race.

Man, there's a lot to take away from this one to talk about from this one.

First of all, Jordan, your impressions of Michael McDowell,

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